is islam terrorism ?

[gallouj]

Azul all .


I want to know what people perceive when one says Islam is terrorism. Many people in this world have been misguided by the media or some political leaders that Islam is about terrorizing. Some even perceived that Islam is a very evil religion. Islam is not. In fact, many of its teachings promote peace. You can't even hurt the young or the old during war. Not even trees that provide shelter during raining and sunny days. Those so called "Muslim-terrorists" are not muslim at all. They even kill those that are Muslims. Being "too religious" is like "drinking so much water!". Water is necessary and good, but too much of it would lead to destruction. Many teachings that are simple can be interpreted wildly or out of its content if being obsessive. I want to know how we could solve these misconceptions. What should we do as a Muslim. And the suggestions from the non-Muslim.



I think, the only way to fight terrorism is by being patient. We could not fight fire with fire. We add water. Maybe those terrorists are living in a very poor condition. They hold up rifle or gun at a very young age. Their mind is all about gaining freedom and to them, the way to get it is by terrorizing. Not like most of us, we hold up books, toys when we were young. We cannot fight them with rifles or guns (War). We give them education. We show them the meaning of freedom. A life where one is free to learn and educate. We must show them that in Islam, learning is also Jihad. By gaining knowledge, one could think sensibly for others. I've been doing some thinking last time ago. If someone kill my father or my mother, or even terrorizing my own race, i will be very angry, i might kill them all. I thought, spill one blood will get to your own blood. But then i think again. What if I just be patient. Maybe those that terrorize me got their own reason of doing so. Maybe they are living in a very poor condition than mine. Maybe they cant have the kind of education that i got. Maybe they are living in fear or anger. Maybe their father or mother had been killed by one of my people. I will just never know. The re-thinking that i did put me in a very sad position and the only way to be sensible and wise, is be patient. The best present that one could ever give is forgiveness

[Fatality]

perhaps if you study islam well enough , you'll get to know it

anyway from my point of view all religions are terrorism since they use fear to control people and islam isn't an exception
yes some might disagree saying it's a religion of peace and such but It's only their genes talking , not islam I say how well do you know your religion ? cuz I'm sure as hell it ain't enough to realise the truth

here's an example : a muslim turns into an atheist in a muslim country , if he's open about it , he's dead

no offense

[ruby_ghawi]

you think because you don't live in a muslim country that you know more about Islam and that you are more able to understand that it's terrorism

sorry; but for me terrorism is what your bush is doing to irak no offense

moreover, terrorism and religion are 2 different issues. Terrorist use Islma to justify their acts, but it has nothing to do with it

here is an example of intolerance and islamophobia:

a young girl wearing the hidjab is not allowed to speak in tv because she's not dressed like usual presentators

[Fatality]

I understand your anger but I was just making a point
sorry if it was offensive

as for hidjab girls , TV companies want attractive women as representers and reporters , it's no use for them to hire a woman who has nothing attractive about her
they need made up hot chicks as reporters , same goes for al-arabia and aljazeera
it's a marketing thing , not because of islamophobia of something
as for religion , it's false in my opinion all three of'em
Religion will never be the way for me because religion is slavery
sure it teaches some good manners but it's still based on fales myths and caused millions of deaths

it's hard to get well with someone who considers you a pig infidel and can kill you at first chance in hand

now we can start a really cool discussion about this if you want

[ruby_ghawi]

Envoyé par Fatality I understand your anger but I was just making a point sorry if it was offensive as for hidjab girls , TV companies want attractive women as representers and reporters , it's no use for them to hire a woman who has nothing attractive about her they need made up hot chicks as reporters , same goes for al-arabia and aljazeera it's a marketing thing , not because of islamophobia of something as for religion , it's false in my opinion all three of'em Religion will never be the way for me because religion is slavery sure it teaches some good manners but it's still based on fales myths and caused millions of deaths now we can start a really cool discussion about this if you want

i can say the same for atheism
actually, atheism is another form of religion for me, you worship science or anything else but god, that's all, you 're not different from catholics, muslims or jews

what you mentionned is called discrimination, it's like refusing a job to fat people or black people
aljazeera, almasreya, alarabia, dubai tv and so one have female wearing hidjab as presentators, and they are also pretty and good looking, even more than occidental woman

just turn you tv on dubai and you'll see so many young girls wearing hidjab and dressed elegantly and respectfully that you'll never watch american tv again

i think your problem comes from the fact you don't know enough islamic and arabic communities, or you know a small part of it

[Fatality]

Envoyé par ruby_ghawi i can say the same for atheism actually, atheism is another form of religion for me, you worship science or anything else but god, that's all, you 're not different from catholics, muslims or jews what you mentionned is called discrimination, it's like refusing a job to fat people or black people aljazeera, almasreya, alarabia, dubai tv and so one have female wearing hidjab as presentators, and they are also pretty and good looking, even more than occidental woman just turn you tv on dubai and you'll see so many young girls wearing hidjab and dressed elegantly and respectfully that you'll never watch american tv again i think your problem comes from the fact you don't know enough islamic and arabic communities, or you know a small part of it

atheism is not a religion , I consider myself as a guy who doesn't believe in anything without solid proof
science provides that solid proof, undeniable proof , so why deny it ? why follow a blind faith because our ancestors did and so did theirs
you must go seek the truth and the truth shall set you free , as a non believer doesn't mean you don't have principles and can do all nasty stuff you want
for a society to work it needs rules for everyone to follow and the freedom of speech of its parties
religion provides rules and restrictions but no Freedom , it was a primitive way of getting people together and making them follow a path
but now we're beyong that we know better than to follow an old myth

provide solid proof and I'll follow your faith which I highly doubt you will and please no "ijaz ilmi" cuz I read most of that stuff and I can turn it down with much solid evidence
you don't begin to appreciate freedom untill you start to think for yourself
give it some thoughts

[ruby_ghawi]

Envoyé par Fatality atheism is not a religion , I consider myself as a guy who doesn't believe in anything without solid proof science provides that solid proof, undeniable proof , so why deny it ? why follow a blind faith because our ancestors did and so did theirs you must go seek the truth and the truth shall set you free , as a non believer doesn't mean you don't have principles and can do all nasty stuff you want for a society to work it needs rules for everyone to follow and the freedom of speech of its parties religion provides rules and restrictions but no Freedom , it was a primitive way of getting people together and making them follow a path but now we're beyong that we know better than to follow an old myth provide solid proof and I'll follow your faith which I highly doubt you will and please no "ijaz ilmi" cuz I read most of that stuff and I can turn it down with much solid evidence you don't begin to appreciate freedom untill you start to think for yourself give it some thoughts

you know i'm not able to prove you that religion is right or true, and honestly i don't see the necessity

if you're a scientist and that you feel good about it, then it's your right, and i won't ask you to give me solid proof of what you say, because i know that you can't
Nothing in this world is true or false, there are only theories and choices

i think for myself for quiet a long time, and nobody ever forced me to believe in something or to do something that has a link with religion, everything came with explanations and observation, then i felt Islam was a really good thing for me and i began to practice

you can't imagine how people are free in religion, God is not the one who enslaves us, it's humans

[Fatality]

Envoyé par ruby_ghawi you know i'm not able to prove you that religion is right or true, and honestly i don't see the necessity if you're a scientist and that you feel good about it, then it's your right, and i won't ask you to give me solid proof of what you say, because i know that you can't Nothing in this world is true or false, there are only theories and choices i think for myself for quiet a long time, and nobody ever forced me to believe in something or to do something that has a link with religion, everything came with explanations and observation, then i felt Islam was a really good thing for me and i began to practice you can't imagine how people are free in religion, God is not the one who enslaves us, it's humans

what you say comes from your genes not islam

here's one thing
وما خلقت الانس و الجن الا ليعبدون

appearently your god has only created you so you can worship him and so he can please his perverted desire of being worshiped
you have no other meaning , no other purpose and you definitly don't have any right to oppose him or else he'll just throw you in a place full of fire and monsters where you'll get turtored in the worst ways beyond human imaginations for ETERNITY
if you don't worship him 5 times a day you'll do so in the afterlife on a heated rock so hot that'll burn your skin , organs and even melt you and then you regenerate to be tortured with the exact same method over and over and over again for eternity
is that merciful to you ?
modern islam is a polished islam
not everything in the world is between true and false , yes there are some interesting theories but most of them are believable and are not based on myths and fairy tales and magical beings
as for what I believe in , everything I believe in is because there's solid proof on the table , undeniable proof that is not up for discussion and denying it will be refusing to see the truth
the question is do you believe because you're convinced or because you need to?

again I am not the enemy here

[ruby_ghawi]

Envoyé par Fatality what you say comes from your genes not islam here's one thing وما خلقت الانس و الجن الا ليعبدون appearently your god has only created you so you can worship him and so he can please his perverted desire of being worshiped you have no other meaning , no other purpose and you definitly don't have any right to oppose him or else he'll just throw you in a place full of fire and monsters where you'll get turtored in the worst ways beyond human imaginations for ETERNITY if you don't worship him 5 times a day you'll do so in the afterlife on a heated rock so hot that'll burn your skin , organs and even melt you and then you regenerate to be tortured with the exact same method over and over and over again for eternity is that merciful to you ? modern islam is a polished islam not everything in the world is between true and false , yes there are some interesting theories but most of them are believable and are not based on myths and fairy tales and magical beings as for what I believe in , everything I believe in is because there's solid proof on the table , undeniable proof that is not up for discussion and denying it will be refusing to see the truth the question is do you believe because you're convinced or because you need to? again I am not the enemy here

well it's your vision of Islam, but i can also tell that in Islam it's said that God ils ra7im and ra7man

unlike you, i don't need to believe because there is a solid proof, but i believe because the theory, the religion, the principles suit me and that's all

if you believed in something, you would know that believing requires steps

you can't believe from your birth, but that is something that comes after

personally, i began to really believe in god and in my religion, when i turned 14, because i asked myself questions and i got answered, so after that i began to practice and to know the full meaning of it

i don't think it's my ancestors or my ethnic background that provided me this belief in god, i think it was a continuation of my spiritual and personal growth

as you maybe, when you discovered you were atheist

if i'll be tortured, then i deserve it.

[farid_h]

Envoyé par ruby_ghawi unlike you, i don't need to believe because there is a solid proof, but i believe because the theory, the religion, the principles suit me and that's all

This is "The Big Divide" between science and faith. Faith doesn't need proof: it comes from within and is not based on rational thinking. That doesn't make it better or worse, it's just the way it is: a different way of thinking.

Envoyé par ruby_ghawi personally, i began to really believe in god and in my religion, when i turned 14, because i asked myself questions and i got answered, so after that i began to practice and to know the full meaning of it

Have you actually found the answers you were looking for?